Sunday, February 21, 2010

The BS of BJ Card Counting in Vegas, pt 1

live4bj wrote:

I got backed off at one of the casinos in Las Vegas few days back. I hate these places that always have the dealer announce “checks in play” or “green in play”. Like WTF? The table sign says $5 minimum bet $500 maximum bet. Soon as you go from $5 to $25 they start troubling you.
I start playing and I was flat betting for about a half hour cause I wasn’t getting good counts. Best I got in those shoes was probably +2 or +3 so my highest bet was $25 at the most. So I finally get a very very good shoe going and the count went from about 0 and skyrocketed to about +8 after one round. I was playing a 1-5 spread at a $5 table so my bet went from 1 unit to 8. So I bet my 8 units and catch some crappy cards and the dealer catches a 3 or a 5 or something like that, and the dealer ends up busting and I win. So now the count is still enormously high at around +13 and I still keep my max bet out. Cards are delt and I get a black jack. Ok, next round the count is still hovering around +13 so I keep the same bet out and catch a A,9 and end up winning that too. Next I see these 2 security guards in the center of the pit. So I think to myself maybe they are about to do a fill for the table. So next thing I know the floor person asks the dealer to stop dealing cards. So some guy at the other end of the table says jokingly “Why did they stop? Are they going to kick someone out?” Before I know it the floor person points to me and tells the dealer “This guy is going to color up and leave now.” So I ask why and all she does is shake her head no and doesn’t say anything to me. So they give me my chips and I walk toward the cage.
Security discreetly follows near me as if I am freaking stupid and don’t see them. So I cash out. Before I leave I go back to the pit area and want a legit answer before I leave. That’s only fair to give me a good reason. A head shake no is not acceptable. So I ask the bitchy grumpy floor lady and she keeps giving me the hand and head shakes, so I ask to see the next person in charge. So I speak to the next ass in charge and he says “We don’t like your play.” So I said “Well there’s a few things I don’t like about you by just looking at you but I don’t make a big stink about it and embarrass you in front of everyone.” So all he says is “We don’t like your play and how you bet from $5 to $25 to $40.” I said “Is that against the game rules? Do you have the rules listed on paper that says I am not allowed to do that?” He says “No we don’t have any of that. Sorry sir we have the right to refuse anyone playing here because this is private property. You are welcome to play craps, roulette, or three card poker, but not black jack.” So I said “I don’t know how to play those games, but I bet you guys would love that.” So he doesn’t say anything and just walks away from me. All that time the 2 security guards were standing behind me across the way. So I turn around and notice them starring at me like I am some serial killer. I was really really frustrated after this incidence. I have vowed to never visit any casino from now on.
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unochamp wrote:
Well ethically they should not do this kind of things. Especially when the betting amount is not large. This could be justified if someone was betting in thousands but for small sum of 25 or 50 this doesn’t sound very good. But alas we can’t do anything as all the rights are reserved by the casino authorities.
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rogue wrote:
Recently I received a backoff where several armed guards approached me and escorted me out with their jackets pulled back to expose their weapons and their hands poised to draw. They followed me out across a parking lot to my car. It looked like something from a western movie.

What a bunch of morons. Where I come from you don’t strike a pose like that without a really good reason unless you want to be in a shootout, and if you think you might have reason to use a gun you don’t get close enough to the person where they could grab it. No reason I could see for that kind of a backoff, I wasn’t doing belligerence or anything that would warrant more than a handshake backoff from a pit boss. What was up with that, has anyone else seen that kind of behavior from Nevada casino security?
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KitKat wrore:
So, let me get this straight - these guards just wombled in, escorted you out and watched you leave when you were doing nothing wrong? Wow, that’s pretty ghetto.
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victor wrote:
Generally when we fight with someone, we don’t recognize that we are taking the matter too far and as a result of which we don’t foresee the consequences. Don’t worry just keep your cool when you visit there the next time!

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