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http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/secret-gop-plan-push-states-to-declare-bankruptcy-and-smash-unions/Secret GOP plan: Push states to declare bankruptcy and smash unions
Congressional Republicans appear to be quietly but methodically executing a plan that would a) avoid a federal bailout of spendthrift states and b) cripple public employee unions by pushing cash-strapped states such as California and Illinois to declare bankruptcy. This may be the biggest political battle in Washington, my Capitol Hill sources tell me, of 2011.
That’s why the most intriguing aspect of President Barack Obama’s tax deal with Republicans is what the compromise fails to include — a provision to continue the Build America Bonds program. BABs now account for more than 20 percent of new debt sold by states and local governments thanks to a federal rebate equal to 35 percent of interest costs on the bonds. The subsidy program ends on Dec. 31. And my Reuters colleagues report that a GOP congressional aide said Republicans “have a very firm line on BABS — we are not going to allow them to be included.”
In short, the lack of a BAB program would make it harder for states to borrow to cover a $140 billion budgetary shortfall next year, as estimated by the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. The long-term numbers are even scarier. Estimates of states’ unfunded liabilities to pay for retiree benefits range from $750 billion to more than $3 trillion.
Republicans in the House of Representatives already want to stop state and local governments from issuing tax-exempt bonds unless they are more forthright about these future obligations. Republican Representatives Devin Nunes and Darrell Issa of California and Paul Ryan of Wisconsin have introduced a bill that would require state and local governments to estimate the size of public pension liabilities if their assets earned a more conservative rate of return than many plans currently expect. Failure to do so would result in the suspension of their ability to issue tax-exempt bonds
Greater transparency on these obligations can’t be bad. In fact, the federal government itself would do well to report deficit numbers not just on the current cash-in, cash-out basis but also incorporating the underfunding of promised pension and healthcare benefits to retirees.
But it’s about more than just openness. Some Republicans hope the shock of the newly revealed debt totals will grease the way towards explicitly permitting states to declare bankruptcy. Indeed, legislation amending federal bankruptcy law is currently being prepared by congressional Republicans. Local municipalities do declare bankruptcy from time to time, most famously California’s Orange County in 1994. But states can’t. Allowing them the same ability to renegotiate obligations could enable them to slash public employees’ lavish benefits, a big factor in their financial woes. In a recent issue of the The Weekly Standard, bankruptcy expert David Skeel of the University of Pennsylvania walks through the implications:
That’s why the most intriguing aspect of President Barack Obama’s tax deal with Republicans is what the compromise fails to include — a provision to continue the Build America Bonds program. BABs now account for more than 20 percent of new debt sold by states and local governments thanks to a federal rebate equal to 35 percent of interest costs on the bonds. The subsidy program ends on Dec. 31. And my Reuters colleagues report that a GOP congressional aide said Republicans “have a very firm line on BABS — we are not going to allow them to be included.”
In short, the lack of a BAB program would make it harder for states to borrow to cover a $140 billion budgetary shortfall next year, as estimated by the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. The long-term numbers are even scarier. Estimates of states’ unfunded liabilities to pay for retiree benefits range from $750 billion to more than $3 trillion.
Republicans in the House of Representatives already want to stop state and local governments from issuing tax-exempt bonds unless they are more forthright about these future obligations. Republican Representatives Devin Nunes and Darrell Issa of California and Paul Ryan of Wisconsin have introduced a bill that would require state and local governments to estimate the size of public pension liabilities if their assets earned a more conservative rate of return than many plans currently expect. Failure to do so would result in the suspension of their ability to issue tax-exempt bonds
Greater transparency on these obligations can’t be bad. In fact, the federal government itself would do well to report deficit numbers not just on the current cash-in, cash-out basis but also incorporating the underfunding of promised pension and healthcare benefits to retirees.
But it’s about more than just openness. Some Republicans hope the shock of the newly revealed debt totals will grease the way towards explicitly permitting states to declare bankruptcy. Indeed, legislation amending federal bankruptcy law is currently being prepared by congressional Republicans. Local municipalities do declare bankruptcy from time to time, most famously California’s Orange County in 1994. But states can’t. Allowing them the same ability to renegotiate obligations could enable them to slash public employees’ lavish benefits, a big factor in their financial woes. In a recent issue of the The Weekly Standard, bankruptcy expert David Skeel of the University of Pennsylvania walks through the implications:
With liquidation off the table, the effectiveness of state bankruptcy would depend a great deal on the state’s willingness to play hardball with its creditors. The principal candidates for restructuring in states like California or Illinois are the state’s bonds and its contracts with public employees. Ideally, bondholders would vote to approve a restructuring. But if they dug in their heels and resisted proposals to restructure their debt, a bankruptcy chapter for states should allow (as municipal bankruptcy already does) for a proposal to be “crammed down” over their objections under certain circumstances. This eliminates the hold-out problem—the refusal of a minority of bondholders to agree to the terms of a restructuring—that can foil efforts to restructure outside of bankruptcy.It wouldn’t be easy to change the law. Public employee unions have traditionally carried great influence with Democrats, even if President Barack Obama’s willingness to freeze their pay on the federal level suggests their clout may be waning. From the Republican perspective, the fiscal crisis on the state level provides a golden opportunity to defund a key Democratic interest group. For the GOP, it’s an economic and political win.
The bankruptcy law should give debtor states even more power to rewrite union contracts, if the court approves. Interestingly, it is easier to renegotiate a burdensome union contract in municipal bankruptcy than in a corporate bankruptcy. Vallejo has used this power in its bankruptcy case, which was filed in 2008. It is possible that a state could even renegotiate existing pension benefits in bankruptcy, although this is much less clear and less likely than the power to renegotiate an ongoing contract.
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There needs to be much more transparency of State/Muni pension plans. Using 7.5-8.5% discount rate assumptions in the Pension Benefit Obligation is like praying for significant inflation in the US. The current long term AA corporate bond yield is 5.2%. The 30 year US Treasury is 4.4%. Just find a conservative long term yield that an investor could buy a large annuity from Berkshire Hathaway today. When talking about worker retirement plans there is NO REASON to get aggressive on the Discount Rate assumption. And as you note, unfortunately when you pick a conservative rate, many states are 3-5x more underfunded than they thought.
So what can be done? Raise taxes significantly, cut benefits significantly and borrow from the Federal government. Most taxpayers and pension plan members do not want either of these options. Another option would be to eliminate the US corporate income tax which would create millions of jobs in the US and have the equally important benefit of increasing the funding level of the pension plans as US equity prices appreciate 25%+. With a rising US economy and stronger US stock and bond prices, pension plans then can decide if they want to convert to DC plans or to change some of the long term assumptions. http://www.eliminatecorporateincometax.c om
So what can be done? Raise taxes significantly, cut benefits significantly and borrow from the Federal government. Most taxpayers and pension plan members do not want either of these options. Another option would be to eliminate the US corporate income tax which would create millions of jobs in the US and have the equally important benefit of increasing the funding level of the pension plans as US equity prices appreciate 25%+. With a rising US economy and stronger US stock and bond prices, pension plans then can decide if they want to convert to DC plans or to change some of the long term assumptions. http://www.eliminatecorporateincometax.c om
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Interesting spin. How many of the unionized workers voted the right into office this last election? As is typical of the lemmings of the electorate, they fail to see the true colors of those chosen for office. I am far from a union lover, being a lifelong private business owner, however, the plan of busting the unions as well as bankrupting the states, does not surprise me. The righties will reap the financial benefits while the serfs will continue to toil for their feudal lords, but at wages and benefits far lower than they have ever been used to.
Sounds like Henry Ford has been resurrected from the dead.
Sounds like Henry Ford has been resurrected from the dead.
While states can’t actually declare bankruptcy, they can go broke. Dissolving public sector unions makes sense. The states are bargaining with the unions using taxpayer money (money the state does not earn, only collects).
Public sector unions inflate salaries and benefits beyond the private sector levels because there is no ownership in the government; it’s more like cronyism. It’s a lose-lose situation.
Watch Greece, Ireland and other countries with unsustainable debt. The unions are draining their economies with unreasonable demands. Entitlements and unions are difficult to break but it must be done to save the states.
Public sector unions inflate salaries and benefits beyond the private sector levels because there is no ownership in the government; it’s more like cronyism. It’s a lose-lose situation.
Watch Greece, Ireland and other countries with unsustainable debt. The unions are draining their economies with unreasonable demands. Entitlements and unions are difficult to break but it must be done to save the states.
lynd wrote: “… we should increase wages across the board for the private sector or the American Dream of a decent life is gone. Wage deflation is not a good thing, along with wage deflation comes home value deflation.”
The American Dream used to be that you can build a life from scratch here, that you can come here with nothing and end up with a business, a house, even wealth that you can leave to the next generation.
Guaranteed wages and social security for some mean less opportunity for the rest of us. That is why I left Europe; I saw that I was going to have to pay for the babyboomers retirements and healthcare for the rest of my life. America is now worse than Europe.
Home values should fall! They are inflated. The entire Obama agenda is about keeping the bubbles inflated, bailing out the rich, the babyboomers, the too big to fail companies, union/government workers.
The American Dream used to be that you can build a life from scratch here, that you can come here with nothing and end up with a business, a house, even wealth that you can leave to the next generation.
Guaranteed wages and social security for some mean less opportunity for the rest of us. That is why I left Europe; I saw that I was going to have to pay for the babyboomers retirements and healthcare for the rest of my life. America is now worse than Europe.
Home values should fall! They are inflated. The entire Obama agenda is about keeping the bubbles inflated, bailing out the rich, the babyboomers, the too big to fail companies, union/government workers.
One can only hope that the public sector unions can be declared unnecessary (smashed, if you will). The government negotiators have no stake in keeping the unions within realistic boundaries. And, why not? It’s not their money the government is giving away; it is ours.
The unions arbitrarily drive up the salaries and benefits of workers. Look at the gulf that is widening between public and private sector jobs. This has to stop. It is unsustainable.
The unions arbitrarily drive up the salaries and benefits of workers. Look at the gulf that is widening between public and private sector jobs. This has to stop. It is unsustainable.
State Bankruptcy — Thank God that I’m finally hearing of a plan to do what has been obviously needed for quite a while in NY state.
Here, the ‘take’ for public-employee union entitlements is projected to DOUBLE in 5 years, and it is already HIGH! The old contracts MUST be broken.
The union leadership has this state in a neck-lock, and we taxpayers are just gasping for air while any mobile business works to escape, if they haven’t already.
The good thing about Andrew Cuomo being elected governor is that HE, a hard-core democrat if ever there was, gets to manage the bankruptcy and receive the ire of his union-donor supporters! How ironic.
He and Moonbeam Brown in CA will join a very select ‘club’ of the guvs of bankrupt states. They will make a great pair!
Here, the ‘take’ for public-employee union entitlements is projected to DOUBLE in 5 years, and it is already HIGH! The old contracts MUST be broken.
The union leadership has this state in a neck-lock, and we taxpayers are just gasping for air while any mobile business works to escape, if they haven’t already.
The good thing about Andrew Cuomo being elected governor is that HE, a hard-core democrat if ever there was, gets to manage the bankruptcy and receive the ire of his union-donor supporters! How ironic.
He and Moonbeam Brown in CA will join a very select ‘club’ of the guvs of bankrupt states. They will make a great pair!
Currently States cannot declare bankruptcy, so any insolvency is basically an issue between taxpayers and the govt worker unions whose fat compensation packages are driving State budgets to catastrophe. Ultimately taxpayers will insist on cuts.
Republicans would be foolish to create a bankruptcy option that would surely be used….thus pitting taxpayers against bondholders instead and relieving the pressure from govt worker unions.
Think of the auto companies, unions and bondholders as an example of a fairly similar situation.
Aside from the bad politics, it’s also terrible government policy, with all municipal bonds trading lower on the new risk (paying higher interest rates) and increasing States’ costs of borrowing, and ultimately taxes.
Eliminating Build America Bonds unless States clean up their act is fine, but otherwise Republicans should do nothing. Let States renegotiate with unions to lower costs and stabilize budgets.
Republicans would be foolish to create a bankruptcy option that would surely be used….thus pitting taxpayers against bondholders instead and relieving the pressure from govt worker unions.
Think of the auto companies, unions and bondholders as an example of a fairly similar situation.
Aside from the bad politics, it’s also terrible government policy, with all municipal bonds trading lower on the new risk (paying higher interest rates) and increasing States’ costs of borrowing, and ultimately taxes.
Eliminating Build America Bonds unless States clean up their act is fine, but otherwise Republicans should do nothing. Let States renegotiate with unions to lower costs and stabilize budgets.
More proof the Republicans and corporations are the enemy of the American people. The unions my be incompetent, but they are certainly not the enemy of working people. One commenter is right rank and file conservative voting habits. Working rednecks, especially in the South, get their news from talk radio and Fox News too. We are working on a public education campaign to change that.
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Ha. Ha. You have got to love those Republicans especially Sen. Boner and the gay caballero Sen. Grammcracker. If Debt is Prosperity, then we are the richest county in the world! Ha. Ha. All in just 10 years!
At least they are upfront about their intentions of following the Bush/Obama administration agenda of bankrupting America into submission to the World Banksters and the new economic world order!
God, how they hate Independence and government for and by the people and they especially hate any social services for the people including: Employment Benefits, Social Security, Unions, Social Services and public ownership of Lands and Natural Resources and public owned Infrastructure including buildings, highways and bridges.
Republicans pray for the day that Austerity kicks in for Americans and the States are bankrupt and in receivership by the Bank of International Settlements and the International Monetary Fund which is backed by the United Nations and enforced by NATO’s 3 million troops.
The ultimate goal of the World Banksters fiat money debt scheme is International monetary control of each nation by international Totalitarian corporate rule.
At least they are upfront about their intentions of following the Bush/Obama administration agenda of bankrupting America into submission to the World Banksters and the new economic world order!
God, how they hate Independence and government for and by the people and they especially hate any social services for the people including: Employment Benefits, Social Security, Unions, Social Services and public ownership of Lands and Natural Resources and public owned Infrastructure including buildings, highways and bridges.
Republicans pray for the day that Austerity kicks in for Americans and the States are bankrupt and in receivership by the Bank of International Settlements and the International Monetary Fund which is backed by the United Nations and enforced by NATO’s 3 million troops.
The ultimate goal of the World Banksters fiat money debt scheme is International monetary control of each nation by international Totalitarian corporate rule.
@fast2write,
if you disagree so much with fox news perhaps you at least enjoy difference of opinion?
without fox, who would report conservative viewpoints?
if you disagree so much with fox news perhaps you at least enjoy difference of opinion?
without fox, who would report conservative viewpoints?
@cranypaul,
I hope NO union workers voted for the GOP. Why would they be in a union if they know where their dues are going – and let me give you a hint, its not to conservatives…
I hope NO union workers voted for the GOP. Why would they be in a union if they know where their dues are going – and let me give you a hint, its not to conservatives…
Look for the Union Label…
Look for anything Union to evetually fail…
Look for the Unions Label…
Look at countried like Greece, the EU (and soon the U.S.A.) being bailed…
Get the point?
Look for anything Union to evetually fail…
Look for the Unions Label…
Look at countried like Greece, the EU (and soon the U.S.A.) being bailed…
Get the point?